Grateful Dead Live at Deer Creek Music Center on 1995-07-02
- Live concert
- Grateful Dead
- DeadLists Project
- 2004-05-18 14:26:29
- Noblesville, IN
- Bootleg CD>WAV>SHN
- Deer Creek Music Center
Subject: to sonofsaf
Subject: Family Head
Subject: a weird day indeed
Subject: keystone light
Subject: From the Inside Out
It progressed even into the next day as we went to mcd's for breakfast and a kid beside me turned and said, "Can you believe this? They are wearing tie-dyes trying to impress. "I threw down and told him Deer Creek and Noblesville have always welcomed us. Signs saying welcome deadheads on many businesses. Now it will never be again.
I nver applauded. miracles were there. I handed out 1 in an incredible wayat this very show.
My husband and I went in and they took only one of our tickets. As SOON as we got through the gate we looked down and of all things there was ANOTGER TICKET!!!!!! My husband went out and miracled one ticket and used his to get back in. (you can call this a rip off but I truly see this as a MIRACLE.) The point????? Many ways to get into a show without destruction.
Subject: Aeschylus is correct.
Subject: @ least one apologized
Subject: I AM SO SORRY
I call myself Lucky Kid because being born in '78 and havig had the privelege to see The Boys eight times makes me pretty lucky, I think. The reason for this good fortune was that I had two older brothers, one of whom saw them in upwards of 220 times. Anyway, my friends and I met up with my brother and his friends (who were all on tour) after the show and stayed at his friend Julie's house. My brother and all of his friends let me know what an inconsiderate little shit I was after I told him wht I had done. I looked up to my brother quite a bit back then and I had never felt so ashamed in my life. Fortunately, he did forgive me. Though I'm not sure I ever forgave myself. Anyway, I went home to Louisville, and he and his friends went on to Riverport.
A week later my friend Ted and I made the five hour trek up I-65 to Chicago. We were shut out the first night and fortunate enough to see the finale. I met up with my brother afterwards and we partied like rock stars til the wee hours. I've read mixed reviews about that show on this site. Maybe I wasn't "HIP" enough then to know whether the fat man was on or off, but it remains one of the fondest memories of my life and anyone who tells me that that Samson, So Many Roads didn't smoke is fuckin lying.
In closing, let me say that The Grateful Dead was then and is now my favorite band. I just saw Bobby at Red Rocks over Labor Day weekend actually. I consider Garcia to be the greatest improvisational guitarist that ever graced the stage and I am very, very thankful for havig had the opportunity to see them live. And finally, back to the purpose of this post. Words cannot express, particularly to those that were already inside the show and, of course, The Boys themselves, how sorry I am for charging that hill and hopping that fence. I wish I had not done it!
Subject: Are we having fun yet?
Clearly Garcia needed a respite from everything and clearly the GD machine wouldn't let him. Bad GD machine! Bad band! No doses for you! But his health was so bad at this point we probably would have lost him anyway.
Something happens when the gate crashers pour in and the band watches. Desolation Row falls apart temporarily, then they recover. Bobby changes his rythym style to something more choppy and percussion-like, as if he's the one trying to save it on stage (it's his song after all---me? I would have stopped playing but, hey, the show must go on!). The drummers take a powder and Phil is clearly too distressed to play. The last straw, they all probably thought. Or just another night on Hell Tour?
But then the gig gets interesting and a band literally dying before our eyes starts to comment through song, and Garcia, still imprisoned by his demons, responds as best he can. Somehow they manage to play a show, even though they probably had the "fuck this shit" talk during the break. Anticipating a riot if they did book, they play as clear a fuck you to the gate crashers as possible.
It's the reason I come back to this show. It's the Hell Tour in a nutshell. It really has some weird dynamic that makes it as interesting as watching the aftermath of a train wreck. But with better songs. Don't get me wrong I actually like this show.
The New Speedway is the perfect choice and it's as good as any New Speedway I heard from '92. I never liked the way they played it after its stunning breakout in '91 apart from the RFK version from this same tour, and maybe the Shoreline '95 version.
I'll never understand why, when it was so clear for years, that the band, because of Garcia, was in severe decline, that thousands still wanted to crash a Dead show. There was a surfeit of idiots who wanted a party and to get in on the fun, I guess. Some party. Some fun. Excuse us, we're watching our band die here, if you don't mind.
If they had played stadiums around this holiday week-end this debacle probably wouldn't have happened. Highgate was a clusterfuck too with a bad bad show. But this show is more interesting. Like a late Charlie Parker date. You can't help but be proud of them playing through the storm. You kind of want to hug them. There are some real surprises here and one of them is their perserverance. They were the Dead. What else did they know but that they must let the music play the band.
I'll come back to this one. It's historical and has its moments.
The sound is the usual mediocre sort of recording I regularly received from 93-95, but because it's outdoors, it ain't too bad. Phil is clear. And the other audience I heard back in '96 was worse. I'd take this over the SBD just because this kind of demands that you hear the crowd to "get it".
Lastly, the Broken Arrow is a bit much, if you want my opinion, with Jerry's awful fooling around with that MIDI pedal steel (a terrible insult to Phil) and Phil's punk rock vocal.
Maybe that caused the riot.
Deer Creek was heaven any other year. I miss it. I miss them more.
Subject: Deercreek 1995
I enjoy it even with holes and really bad playing at times. The ruggedness is not pretty, and can be sad.
Yet, there are moments. I do admit a fondness for this Desolation Row.
There are far better ones out there, but I enjoy this one.
Subject: to all the gate crashing scumbags...
Subject: Lets put it in perspective
Recording cuts pulls it from a 4 to a 3. I can't go as low as a 1 though, but I can understand the critique of cutting a Scarlet/Fire mid-way. I'm choosing to rate it on the show itself though, regardless of the recording and the exterior incident. If you think it's too generous, don't worry, there's plenty of people on this board underating the show based solely on the gate-crashing (it's NOT a 0, 1 or 2-star show from a playing and setlist perspective--don't care what you say). What's also a bummer is we didn't get our Help/Slip/Frank the next night (standard Deer Creek number) and it would have been the last ever; never was played the rest of the tour to all our collective loss.
Incidentally, the soundcheck for this show was perhaps the best treat of the day. I remember sitting with a bud by the creek itself and listening to clear versions of Death Don't, Hoochie Coochie Man (bob singing), a full Visions of Johanna, and a couple HC Sunshines...quite a moment I'll never forget.
Subject: "I was sold a fake ticket to my 1st Dead show in '89 and ended up crashin' the gate."
i'm glad i only caught one '95 show and i'm even happier that it wasn't a bad painful memory like many of you apparently had at this debacle...
Subject: my last show
Subject: gate crashers...
Subject: I guess I attended a different show.....
Musically the show was decent for those that remember, a good Desolation, Dire Wolf had substance and the HCS was very welcome.
Subject: Sorry so many feel that way
Subject: 11 years and some days
Subject: Bull$shit aside, a very good show musically
I was here, and recall Bobby's jaw just about hitting the stage floor after he had grabbed his acoustic and turned back to face the audience for 'Desolation Row.' Bobby, thanks for delivering and sticking with it thru the rest of the 1st set chaos-the Let it Grow and Tenn Jed are probably the tightest versions of the whole year. Dire Wolf and HC Sunshine are top notch too. Yes, Bobby, that was me jumping up & down like a lunatic in the back of the pavilion screaming 'Let It Grow, Bobby' near the end of set I. Thanks for delivering yet again. Forutnately the yuppies whose seats I squatted in didn't come back until the end of the set, refreshments in hand and chatting on their cel phones about what they just saw.
2nd set was very trippy. Scarlet>Fire>Victim is big time spooky. Bralove sampled the propellers of the Indiana State Police's helicopters during 'space' and sent them thru the entire PA.
There was one of those low wattage, high quality FM broadcasts of this show. Who's got the sound check from this show? HIt me up at email@example.com
Subject: Get the message?!?!??!!
Subject: gate crashers suck
Subject: gatecrashers suck
Subject: Gate crashers still suck.
I remember some punk-ass kid sliding down into the lawn right next to me with a big s**t-eating grin on his face, trying to blend in with me and my friends. And I remember standing up and shouting at the top of my lungs, "If you don't have a ticket, you don't F*ing belong here. Go the F* home."
And I wasn't the only one. There were plenty of people pissed off at the rioters, well before they cancelled the show. I camped out for tickets for both nights, with some of my best friends, and we dumped a ton of money on travel expenses to get the tickets. My girlfriend and I decided that we didn't want to see the second show if the crowd was going to ruin the show. So by the time the announcement came down the next day, we had already cancelled our show -- we traded our tickets (which were going for $100+ dollars, but we weren't interested in cash -- that's not what it was about), and drove home to consider going to St. Louis. We didn't find out until later that day when the roommates came in behind us that the second show had been cancelled.
In fact, we walked out of the first show. The last tune I heard as we were leaving was "Victim or the Crime" -- clearly a message to the crowd, which largely fell on deaf ears. We weren't the only ones walking out, although most people stayed to see the rest of the very short show. I remember people praying at the gates, clearly trying to help mend the damage done -- for what it was worth.
Those of you who crashed the gates, I hope you've grown up since then. And I hope you've asked yourself just who the hell you thought you were rioting against -- because in the end, you hurt the band, you hurt yourselves, you hurt me, and you hurt the entire tour. And for what? To mess with the pigs? For the thrill of it?
You weren't the victims -- you were the crime. And it really is that simple.
That said, the tiny bit of the show that was free from this madness was good -- at least, that's the way I remember it. And I remember Victim being a very passionate rendition.
Yes, a very dark, strange, twisted and confusing night. I didn't even mention the insanity in the lot, the campgrounds, or the interstate surrounding the venue. All in all, my darkest show, and a very painful and sad memory.
I'm downloading the show anyway -- you have to take the bad with the good.
Subject: Another Look at The Riot Show
Subject: Crazy Night!
Subject: Don't Murder Jerry...
Anyway I remember really diggin' Dire Wolf to say the least. I never heard before live, I had a smile ear to ear during opening notes right up front.
Subject: Bootleg CD?
Subject: Scary show
Subject: audience recording
Subject: the way it goes...
Subject: Not recommended
Subject: Whats Bootleg CD????
there are 2 different copies of this on here... they both sound like AUDs ... is there any difference between them??? and what does Bootleg CD mean???
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